login basecamp neonews page

I Incriminate Myself

Forget the Trends Which Come and Go

November 18, 2008

Danger! Rockslide! (but are they going to slide or have they already slid?)

I know “Christian” music isn’t for everyone, but sometimes it pounds the hammer on the head of the nail like nothing else can, and captures the whirlwind of emotion in a poignant way.

 

Landslide

by

Seven Places

I feel crazy, hope is hazy right now- but I won’t freak out,
I won’t freak out at the sound of the
Landslide inside, fear wants to take my peace of mind.
Won’t run, won’t hide, I will lift my hands up high.
In my troubles I have doubled my prayers.
Because I need them, I need them like I need the air.

Landslide inside, fear wants to take my peace of mind.
Won’t run, won’t hide, I will lift my hands up high.
Here’s to the Name Above All Names, I will trust You Jesus I’ll be brave.

I will live my life day by day.
Because You’re the only Truth, the only Way out of this
Landslide inside, fear wants to take my peace of mind.
Won’t run, won’t hide, I will lift my hands up high.
Here’s to the Name Above All Names, here’s to the only one who saves.
I will trust You Jesus I’ll be brave.

 

See the music video for “Landslide” on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSXFeUQ32a4

Religion and Philosophy — j. ramsey @ 12:50 pm
Comments (0)

November 11, 2008

My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult

“ Call up one by one the systems of tyranny and aggression and superstition which have cursed the earth, and which have long since disappeared. Call them out of their graves and ask them, ‘Who smote you? What made you pass?’ And one by one they answer, ‘Christ smote us and we died’.”

- Dr. C.E. Macartney

 

At first glance, the accusation of possible cultic activity transpiring within the hallowed non-walls of Xenos seems not only absurd, but laughably so.

But look at it from the perspective of an outsider:

1. They’re doing things I don’t understand.

1a. These things are making a difference in the attitudes and lifestyles of adolescents, written off by a culture who believes that no good is all an adolescent can be up to.

2. The difference, though positive, is of such depth and bears an all-encompassing aspect which is not easily shrugged off.

3. They keep saying the word “Grace.” As far as I know, grace is what you say before dinner. That’s it.

4. The group as a whole is very closely knit.

4a. I never had friends like that and look upon such groups with suspicion, as any American would.

The logical conclusion to anyone not familiar with the physical manifestation of a life lived completely as if Christ died once for all, is that the group must be a cult. I am convinced to some degree that this is because of the lack of association the typical (even a churched) American has with someone who lives in large part in accordance to biblical writ. To the outsider, whose experience with church was built upon rote, tradition merely for its own sake, clergy and layperson, earning your salvation, etc., a life lived under grace is such a foreign and unwelcome idea that it must be stigmatized in order to be justified.

I surmise that a great many people cannot abide the idea of a God who forgives all, because they know they do not forgive all, and “Who is more like God than me?”

However.

One has to ask if those accusing Xenos-goers of cultic behavior even took the time before their accusation to do any research to find out exactly what earmarks are displayed by a cult and whether Xenos actually bears any of them (which it doesn’t).

What makes Xenos not a cult? Several things.

1. Our worship of Christ
 Cults are notorious for worshiping their current leader- who usually claims to be God incarnate. To my knowledge Keith has never done this. If we worshipped Keith as an incarnation of deity, that would be cultic.
2. Xenos’ subservience to the commands of The Bible
 By and large, cults do not refer to any authority larger than themselves, subject to the domination and charisma of their leader who claims to be God and so has that authority. If we had cast off the input of Scripture, that would be cultic.

Also supporting this aspect of Xenos’ non-cultic behavior is our reference to church authority even outside of The Bible- D.A. Carson, Ravi Zacharias, Watchman Nee, etc. These writers and speakers are not cut of the Xenos cloth, yet we look to them for strategy, input, wisdom and insight. Our willingness to consider alternative points of view and then adopting the one which seems to be most founded in Scriptural truth makes us not a cult.

3. Cults typically adopt ideological statues looked upon by the majority as being false.
An example of this would be that “Heaven’s Gate” cult from the late 1990’s. Their belief that earth was going to be “wiped clean” was not adopted by the general public.

Christianity, in the United States of America, is generally considered to hold certain truth values (I do not also mean that generally speaking, most people live their lives as if it was true). Christianity is not, by any stretch of the imagination, an unfamiliar topic of conversation or something which the average person has not at least experienced in periphery.

————————————————————————————-

I hope this little blog encourages you. We aren’t a cult. Most everyone knows that without even a considering aside. But perhaps someone was wondering deep within the recesses of their mind. I hope this settles it.

“… The world today is a world that has been ‘turned upside down.’ Is the world’s labor today done by slaves? Is one-half the population of the world slaves? Are prisoners when taken in battle put to the sword? Are little children exposed and left to die by their parents on the hillsides, and in the forests? Is woman a plaything and chattel of mankind? To ask these questions is to answer them. The power that wrought this great change was the Gospel of Christ.”

-Dr. C.E. Macartney

Religion and Philosophy — j. ramsey @ 11:34 am
Comments (5)

September 14, 2008

The Culture of Saving Face vs. The Culture of Saving Grace

I’m not sure the correct way to start answering the question “What is wrong with the current state of the church?” is to assume something new has happened with which we must all come to grips. I think the “wrongness” of many churches can only be seen from a vantage point more in keeping with God’s character as he defines it with man’s comments as the subtext, rather than God’s character as imagined and defined by man with God’s comments as the subtext.

By the age of 24, I had had enough of the mindset, ideology and underlying philosophy of the church which raised me and, with an unsettled heart and a head full of questions, left, thinking “This can’t be all there is to the truth.” However, if you had asked me at that time what my reasons for leaving were, I probably would have attempted to define the vague unease which at that time plagued my heart, soul and mind and would have failed miserably in giving that whisper a soapbox. It wasn’t until more recently, after attending Xenos, that I have been able to effectively articulate the reasons I left that church four years ago.

At that time in my life, the only real philosophical ideology to which I had been submitted was more self-determined than anything else, and therefore incompatible with abundant life as I understood it.

John 10:10

(Amplified Bible)

10 The thief comes only in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, and have it in abundance (to the full, till it overflows).

I just could not reconcile the idea of “life…in abundance” and the current corporate mindset I endured through my immediate experience.

My former church, though the teaching was biblical in conveyance, was closer to the antithesis of biblical instruction in the day-to-day application. This became painfully obvious to me upon my introduction to the Xenos method of building relationships. I suddenly realized that in spite of twenty years of education in the church, my understanding of love began and ended with the famous passage of 1 Cor. 13, where Paul lists qualities of love. If articulated, my thinking may have sounded something like this “Ok, Paul says ‘love is patient.’ So if I’m patient, I’m loving. Paul says ‘love is kind.’ So if I’m kind and patient, I’m really doing well.” I had somehow completely missed the fact that love needs an environment in which to grow and be grown. Just as a plant needs dirt in which to be planted so does the dirt need a context in which to exist as well. Obviously this is the context of relationship where love is concerned. I suppose what I may have been seeking at that time was a sort of general love. I might have been pursuing a “love for all” kind of idea which ended up with me attempting to love in a vacuum. No context means no object in my experience upon whom my love could be attempted and refined! Useless! Vacuous! American!

Our church reflected our American culture. But instead of pointing out to us which parts of our culture were keeping us from knowing God and each other better, and working through, with or around these seeming obstacles, we may have taken our cues more from Captain Kirk and yelled “Shields up!” I have heard someone at Xenos mention a certain church which instructed the congregates to avoid a particular brand of breakfast cereal as that brand was currently festooning its packaging with cartoon depictions advertising the movie Hercules. I remember this dictum being issued at my former church as well, alongside caveats that the other things to be avoided were Halloween, dancing (this isn’t “wrong” per se, it just isn’t allowed at the church), bars, alcoholic drinks, piercing, tattoos, smoking etc. I don’t care to remember how many fruitless minutes I spent in debate with fellow church-goers about how drinking alcohol isn’t technically wrong.

There lies the rub. Anytime you’re talking with fellow believers about what the Bible has to say and someone (perhaps you) uses the word technically, the truth is revealed. My former church didn’t officially endorse such discussions, but when the mindset of the church is “Ok, grace, yeah whatever. Do A, B, C, stay away from D, E, F, ooh, some random person thinks we should stay away from B, but technically…” You’re not serving God anymore. You’re trying to entertain people and impress God. You’re putting on a puppet show as the puppeteer, the puppet and the audience all in one.

You’re more concerned with the law then you are with God’s grace.

You’re more concerned with saving face than saving grace.

Did my former church teach that it was possible to be saved by works? No, it never taught a works-based salvation message. It did, however, lead people to believe that part of a successful Christian life was living in a constant state of panic that some of your current habits would be construed as “inappropriate” and you would be forced to succumb to the will of the congregates.

Religion and Philosophy — j. ramsey @ 3:26 pm
Comments (4)

July 28, 2008

Emergent Philosophy

The XSI really got me thinking.  This emergent church-thing: what is it? In this entry I scrape the surface slightly to try to collect my own thoughts on the matter.  I recently began blogging at the Columbus Cohort’s website and this is some of the information i have garnered.  I am not sure the most effective way to dismantle the ECM is with the Bible.  In fact it is so lacking in biblical foundation, that the words “Captain Obvious” come to mind.  I am looking at it more from a philosophical and logical standpoint, but ultimately using my philosophical and logical groundings from the Bible.  There’s just no escaping truth, I guess.

The Emergent Philosophy

The problems with the emergent church system are numerous. Their underlying ideology is difficult to determine, even by those proponents of it. This in itself is a problem, as there is no group focus, no goal seeking to be attained by all. Some of their main points, as near as I am able to discover, seem to be:

  • The soft categorical assertion that true understanding of the Bible only comes with experience, not study.

At times they take this one step further and claim that study of the Bible actually hinders spiritual growth.

  • The soft categorical assertion that truth is ultimately unknowable.

This is perhaps best displayed in the argument that:

1. God is infinite. 

2. God is truth. ← A breakdown occurs here in that there is no distinction between God being the revealer of truth and God being the same as truth: God is true but truth is not God.

Therefore

3. Truth is infinite. ← A second breakdown occurs here in that truth is not infinite. A limited number of things are true, even about God. This has, however, no impact on his nature of infinity. It only says “There are qualities God does not possess.” This would only limit the number of true things about him, not the things about him that are true.

And

1. Humans are finite.

2. Finite humans cannot comprehend infinite truth. ←  A third breakdown occurs here as a result of assuming that an infinite God cannot reveal any truth to a mind not capable of comprehending his infinite nature, or that a finite mind is incapable of being revealed to by an infinite God.

 Therefore

3. Humans cannot comprehend truth. ← The final breakdown occurs in the ultimate conclusion. If the conclusion was something like “Humans cannot comprehend infinity,” I would agree with it.

  • The desire to avoid allowing internal and external contradiction to cause division.
  • The soft categorical desire to avoid coming to any conclusions about the origin, nature and meaning of truth,
  • From which naturally follows their desire to avoid reaching conclusions.

This idea I think is best summed up in a quotation from the leader of the emergent group in Columbus, Ohio. In a web log posted on December 12, 2007, he refers to a PBS documentary which had reference to the emergent movement, and encourages his group to watch it. His statement runs as follows, “Since I generally try not to know about things, and have done a pretty good job of this when it comes to my faith, I learned a lot from it.”

  • The assertion that the idea of atonement through penal substitution is divine child abuse.
  • The assertion that the letters and instruction of Paul “color” the “Gospels” in a certain way and what our view might be if we disregarded his input.

Please note I am still in the process of sifting through the grains of sand that fill this hourglass.  The emergent movement is, as of yet, undefinable.  Thus it is incredibly dangerous as they are not possessive of a SOP.  What focus there is seems to be on “knowing that you don’t know.” This to me has the ring of eastern mysticism where great knowledge is supposedly in aphorisms like “What is the sound of one hand clapping?”  This is actually very close to describing the emergent movement because if you consider one hand to be the study of Scripture, the other hand to be its application to life and the clap to be a successful Christian walk in which one grows closer to God as one grows closer to people, they have removed the hand which values the input of Scripture and are still trying to make a successful clap.

Religion and Philosophy — j. ramsey @ 4:52 pm
Comments (5)

June 23, 2008

If Memory Serves

Asking The Question

When I started working at The Press of Ohio I made a decision to never tap-dance around my faith in God. This has led to a great many conversations with people from all walks of life, and topics have varied greatly. I’ve discussed all kinds of things with my fellow employees. My only guideline has always been to present an answer I know to be in keeping with the tenets of Scripture. If I didn’t know of an answer directly given, I tried to answer based on my knowledge of God’s character. Below find a list of some of the questions I’ve been asked.

  • Do you think animals go to heaven when they die?
  • Why did Noah live to be so old?
  • Do you think Jesus would listen to Ozzy Osbourne?
  • Doesn’t the Bible say that if you get a tattoo you’re going to hell?
  • Doesn’t the Bible say that if you commit suicide you’re going to hell?
  • I’ve decided to follow a mix of Christianity and Buddhism. What do you think?
  • How can you be sure that what you believe is true?
  • What does the Bible say heaven will be like? I thought I read that we turn into angels.
  • How can you have tattoos and call yourself a Christian? (this one asked by a fellow believer in Christ)

Believe it or not all of these questions were asked in sincerity, even the one about Ozzy Osbourne. Now at the end of my career, I can only conclude one thing- people are searching for truth. Ironically enough they create it half the time. The other half of the time they’re worried about what the Bible might say. But that’s not the point of this writing. This past Friday I was asked yet another question.

The self-portrait of their belief structure.
The self-portrait of their belief structure.

Answering The Question

I was returning to my station after a bathroom break when three guys working at another machine called me over. “Jeremiah!” they yelled. I turned to see them waving me over, so over I went. They all started talking at the same time. I asked them to slow down and hurry up because I had to get to my station. Finally one piped up, “Joe told Tony that the Bible says that when we die, we forget everything. Is that true?” My response was short and sweet and the best I could do in the thirty seconds allotted me. “No,” I replied. “The Bible says nothing of the kind. In fact, it alludes to the exact opposite.” They were satisfied with my answer. Mostly, I think, because they just wanted Joe (whom they don’t like) to be wrong. But it was a good question and one I considered that evening on my drive home.

Questioning The Question

Look! That answer fits me perfectly!
Look! That answer fits me perfectly!

“Do we forget everything when we die?”

My answer at the time was based solely on logic. In about 15 seconds I had to consider the ramifications of an eternal human spirit with a finitely existent memory. Where does the spirit stop and the memory begin? Are they not part and parcel? Basically what I concluded was that if it was true that we forget everything, people who entered heaven (or hell) would have no clue who they were, where they were, or why they were there. I am convinced that we will have memory of the decision we made to follow Christ if we are in heaven and if in hell, a person may be able to recall opportunities they had in life to receive Christ and didn’t, thus adding to their eternal torment.

Rock This Town

Interestingly enough, God uses all kinds of things in Scripture to help people remember. The Israelites are always setting up some pile of rocks or another so when their children happen upon it in the future and ask “What is this pile of rocks?” the parent can answer “This is the place where God did such-and-such for us.” Specifically I recall their carrying of the Ark of the Covenant across the Jordan River. God stopped the water so the priest’s feet would not get wet. Once all were across, he instructed them to set up a pile of stones for this very reason of remembering. God values memory to the point of making sure it is reinforced by physical means.  He’s in the business of making mnemonic devices!

Remember When You Decided Not To Decide?

I'll just sit here and that'll be great!
I'll just sit here and that'll be great!

 A parable comes to mind to illustrate the survival of it even into the afterlife. In the gospel of Luke, chapter 16:19-31, Jesus tells the parable of the rich man and the beggar. It is a rather long excerpt so I will not quote it in its entirety. Suffice to say we see a prime example of a dead man remembering something:

25 “But Abraham said to him, ‘Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish’.”

Abraham literally tells the rich man to remember! He prompts him! Remember how comfy you were? Remember how you wanted for nothing? Oh yeah, he remembers. And he’s miserable.

Two verses later we see an example of unprompted recollection on the part of the rich man:

27 “Then the rich man said, ‘Please, Father Abraham, send him to my father’s home. 28 For I have five brothers, and I want him to warn them about this place of torment so they won’t have to come here when they die’.”

Apparently the rich man remembers quite a bit in death. He knows he has five brothers, some or all of whom live at his dad’s house. And he also knows they’re going to end up in the exact same state of eternal want that he is currently experiencing.

What Was I Talking About Again?

It seems like an easy question to answer, “Does the Bible say we forget everything when we die?” But like many of the questions surrounding biblical precepts, answering one only seems to spawn more questions, or rhetorical questions, that must be considered to arrive at a biblical conclusion.

  • If we do forget everything when we die, then Jesus must have forgotten everything when he died upon the cross. Did his memory return upon his resurrection? How?
  • Jesus resurrected a man named Lazarus after he’d been dead for three days! If we forget everything when we die, Lazarus had no clue who he was when Jesus brought him back!

These are just a couple of rhetorical examples that come to the surface when you consider the ramifications of an eternal spirit coexisting with a finite memory.  A better question to ask might be “Can the dead experience regret?” As to this I would answer a categorical “Yes.” But only the dead in a certain place experience regret, since it is a concomitant of a state of desire. In heaven there is no state of desire, only a state of sufficiency. So what is the other place?  Hell.  And it’s…well…hellish.

The sign will be less frozen...
The sign will be less frozen...

 

Religion and Philosophy — j. ramsey @ 8:37 pm
Comments (0)